Runningstories #17

8 July 2026

Creating the ground for healing

In this episode Zuzanna Biernat Whatley postgraduate student MSc in Forensic Psychology at Edinburgh Napier University, interviews Runforever CEO Paolo Maccagno for understanding the role of childhood trauma and attachment difficulties in the rehabilitation process of people with Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASPD) or significant antisocial personality traits. She is particularly interested in exploring the practitioner voice which she says, is significantly underrepresented in the existing literature in this area.

0:00 Runningstories show trailer

00:30 About attachment and the importance of views from professionals which are underrepresented

03:10 What is your professional background? About Feldenkrais and the importance of the body and moving beyond language (06:40). The wall of the marathon (08:30). Creating the ground for healing (14:00)

14:30 How do you understand the relation between trauma and antisocial relationships?

23:00 Which experiences do you commonly encounter? How we work (24:30). The magic of bringing Feldenkrais where it is more needed. The paradox of art inside walls (26:40). Trauma, the body and Feldenkrais (30:00). Unexpected results and the Writers in Residence (33:30). A space without judgement (36:30).

40:00 About rehabilitation and trauma? Lives out of balance (43:00)

44:30 Suggestion for different policies. About evaluation and its impact on the sense of safety and being judged.

49:00 How do you see what we do?